1. Present: Gareth Philips, Graham Thomas, Isabel Evans, John Kent, Philip Skinner.
2. Apologies: Angela Edwards, Ann Stuart, Geoff Bailey, Ray O’Connor, Stuart Reid.
3. Agree Agenda:
02/2.1 The agenda was agreed.
4. Minutes from the Previous Meeting:
02/2.2 The minutes from the previous meeting were agreed.
5. Actions from the Previous Meetings:
00/6.5 Guidelines Section
(01/3.5)
Stuart has agreed to amend the guidelines section of the draft Standard
to ensure that it includes a section on how testers cope with poor or
non-existent requirements.
Carried Forward
SR
01/5.4 Recovery/DR Testing –Examples
(01/5.7, 01/5.8)
The team will simplify the examples, include automated recovery, and
rewrite the Normative and Guidelines sections.
Carried Forward.
JA
02/1.3 SWP Administration
John agreed to separate the website links to other testing sites into
non-profit making organisations and commercial organisations.
He also agreed to add a disclaimer stating that the working party were
not implicitly recommending particular organisations by including links to
their websites on our website.
Carried Forward..
JK
01/1.10 Teams
A number of people have joined/left the teams since the last meeting. The teams as of 5th March 2002 are:
Team |
Techniques |
Members[* denotes the Team leader] |
Reviewers |
1 |
Configuration Portability |
John Kent* Fergus McLachlan Jackie Wynn Angelina Samaroo |
Grenville Johns Marco Giromini Justin Bennett Jos van Rooyen |
2 |
Recovery Disaster Recovery |
Jane Allerton* Christy Ross Pauline Rathbone Ethel Takang |
Justin Bennett Geoff Quentin Jos van Rooyen |
3 |
Performance Stress |
Steve Allott* Martin Nixon Mark Harding Julian Harty Simon Tansey Colin Upton |
Marco Giromini Justin Bennett Phil Skinner John Bradley Jos van Rooyen Antony Marcano |
4 |
Security Procedure |
Brian Hambling* Laurel Saunders Martin Nixon Trevor Price |
Marco Giromini Justin Bennett Jos van Rooyen Dave Norman |
5 |
Interoperability Compatibility |
Phil Skinner* Hiran Fernando Anthony O’Brien Ray O’Connor Chuma Kokayi |
Marco Giromini Justin Bennett Kevin Buchta Lorna Allen David Ramsey Jos van Rooyen |
6 |
Installability Conversion |
Gareth Phillips* Angela Edwards Geoff Quentin Isabel Evans Marius Marais |
Justin Bennett Lorna Allen Geoff Bailey Jos van Rooyen
|
01/7.3
Interoperability Testing - Draft Standard
The team is to generate a draft normative and guidelines section based upon
the minuted diagrams.
Closed.
RH-Y
01/10.4 Circulate Glossary of Terms for Review
The Performance Testing Team has produced a glossary of terms relating
to their technique. The meeting proposed that all teams produce a glossary of
terms as part of the standard. This will be collated by e-mail, posted on the
web site for review, with an additional meeting arranged to review the
contents.
[22/02/02 Graham Thomas has contacted all Team Leaders and they have given a
schedule for the production of a glossary of terms for their technique plus
their availability for a glossary of terms review meeting. The consensus for a
meeting was not before June 2002.].
Carried Forward.
All Team Leaders
01/11.6
Circulate Umbrella Standards Document
It was stated that references to other techniques will be included as a global
section of the standard. Stuart will circulate the umbrella standards document
to the group.
This action has been revised to post the Umbrella Standards Document on the
website (www.tesitngstandards.co.uk),
in the procedures section.
Carried Forward
JK
01/12.3
Portability Testing - Update the Portability Testing Technique
The team agreed to update the technique;
· to detail how the test cases are derived
· to document how portability issue lists are generated
· to change 'platforms' to 'environments'
· to define 'environments'
· to include portability of interpreted languages as well as compiled
· to remove example 2
· to define the term 'system behaviours'
· to expand example 1
Carried Forward.
JK/JW/FM/AS
01/12.4
Portability Testing - Produce diagrams and document the definitions
John Kent agreed to produce a document with completed definitions and diagrams
for Portability, Interoperability Configuration and Compatibility as discussed
in the meeting.
Carried Forward.
JK
01/12.5
Interoperability Testing - Update the Interoperability Testing
Technique
The team agreed to
· to check that the OED definition of communication did not require it to be two way
· to document how to detail attributes of the interoperability interface
· to document how to work out appropriate techniques for test case generation
Carried Forward.
PS/HF
02/1.4 Performance Testing
A number of amendments were discussed and Julian agreed to organise the necessary changes.
Carried Forward.
JH
02/1.5 Procedure Testing
· Reference the IEEE standard on Software Reviews (IEEE 1028-1997).
· Include Model Office as a technique.
Carried Forward.
BH
02/1.6 Test Patterns
Julian agreed to write a proposal for a BCS SIGIST sub group to investigate test patterns and forward this to Stuart for presentation at the next BCS SIGIST committee meeting.
Carried Forward.
JH
5. Techniques Review
5.1 Compatability Testing
Phil Skinner gave a brief recap on the work of the team so far including a definition of Compatibility Testing.
"Compatibility testing shall use a model of the compatibility requirements of the Software/System. Compatibility testing shall asses two or more systems or components ability to meet their operational requirements while residing on the same environment"
The following actions were recorded for the Compatibility Testing Team:
02/2.3
Compatibility Testing - Meeting Actions
- Investigate the use of State Transition, Boundary Conditions and
configuration audits.
- Investigate the set of compatibility tasks; shared components, events &
triggers, operating system time slicing, cause & effect and sequencing of
activities e.g. installation.
- Include cross references to the interoperability and memory management
techniques.
New Action.
PS
5.2 Conversion Testing
Gareth Philips led the meeting in a session to determine the scope of
Conversion Testing.
The discussion was based around a series of questions:
- Is Conversion Testing about the movement of data or the conversion from one
form to another?
- How do we validate the requirements? Should this validation also be carried
out for every technique?
The discussion was wide ranging, covering validation, migration and
conversion, and very useful in helping the team to coalesce their thoughts.
The following action was recorded:
02/2.4
Conversion Testing – Definition of Scope
Gareth agreed to put together a definition of the scope of Conversion
Testing and circulate for review.
New Action.
G
6. Standards Production Process
The meeting discussed the standards production process as prompted by
the note from Geoff Bailey. There were several threads to the discussion,
including the desire not to lose all of the good work that has gone into the
production of each technique.
Additionally the effectiveness of the two meeting approach was debated.
Two actions resulted from the discussion:
02/02.05
Team Leaders – Reaffirm commitment to team
The team leaders present suggested that all team leaders should write out to
their team members to re-affirm the commitment required from the team.
New Action.
Team Leaders
02/02.6
Management Meeting
Graham suggested that the Standards Working Party should hold a management
meeting to determine the next steps and plan out work remaining to complete
the non-functional testing techniques.
New Action.
GT
7. Any Other Business:
02/02.7
New Joiners Guide
Isabel Evans suggested the production of a guide for new joiners which could
be posted on the Web Site. As Secretary Graham has direct contact with all new
members so will look at this.
New Action.
GT
8. Next Meeting:
02/02.8 The updated list of meetings is shown below and is also available on the SWP website. The next meeting involves teams 1 and 2, who will be considering Portability Testing and Disaster Recovery Testing.
Date |
Teams |
Techniques |
27-03-02 |
Team 1 Team 2 |
Portability Testing (2 of
2) |
23-04-02 |
Team 3 Team 4 |
Performance Testing (5 of 5) Security Testing (3 of 3) |
(TBA) May |
Chair, Vice-Chair, Secretary & Team Leaders |
Meeting to plan the work remaining to complete the Non-Functional Testing Techniques. |
(TBA) |
Team Leaders |
Glossary review meeting |
All scheduled Team meetings will take place at PA (Consulting), 123 Buckingham Palace Road, London, between 14:00 and 17:00.
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